{"id":16734,"date":"2021-05-27T08:23:15","date_gmt":"2021-05-27T13:23:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.firewalls.com\/blog\/?p=16734"},"modified":"2021-05-27T08:24:36","modified_gmt":"2021-05-27T13:24:36","slug":"cyber-crime-as-terrorism-ping-podcast-46","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev01.firewalls.com\/blog\/cyber-crime-as-terrorism-ping-podcast-46\/","title":{"rendered":"Cyber Crime as Terrorism, Plus Ransomware Updates &#8211; Ping Podcast &#8211; Episode 46"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Episode 46: Cyber Crime as Terrorism, Plus Ransomware Updates<\/h3>\n<h3><div id=\"buzzsprout-player-8594702\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t <script src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/536932\/8594702.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-8594702&amp;player=small\" type=\"text\/javascript\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/h3>\n<p>In a special double interview edition of the podcast, we start by examining the idea of cyber crime as terrorism. Emma Schroeder &amp; Trey Herr with the Atlantic Council&#8217;s Cyber Statecraft Initiative argue that many still do cybersecurity wrong. Why? In part, because they don&#8217;t meet cyber threats on their terms. Hear how they say cyber crime should be viewed and some tips for government entities in particular to better defend &#8211; including a Hunger Games idea. For more information, check out <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/warontherocks.com\/2021\/05\/cyber-security-as-counter-terrorism-seeking-a-better-debate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Emma &amp; Trey&#8217;s op-ed<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>For our second interview segment, we welcome cybersecurity writer and former IT pro Lance Whitney to help us tackle headlines, starting with a couple of high-profile ransomware issues. First, he updates us on the status of the DarkSide group following the Colonial Pipeline attack. Then, Lance details an FBI warning to healthcare providers to be on the lookout for Conti ransomware in particular. And finally, we discuss another threat targeted at consumers, called vishing &#8211; that&#8217;s voice phishing &#8211; and how hackers are using Amazon in this scheme. 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